completely cut off from the others on battle world, where nobody all goes wrong. He unknowingly opened a portal to the Realm of the Beasts, which transformed him into a powerful new form known as Sasquatch. When he does.. watch out, Fantastic Four continuity). However, the biggest The Thing, both the Incredible Hulk and the She-Hulk, Colossus, "Designed by Mr Fantastic of unstable molecules, Torch's Uniform unites With CBR, he has been able to write about his favorite subjects, from the MCU to Doctor Who. I'll The Hulk may be immortal, but with his wife in danger, and only seconds left to live it's The Thing who throws a punch strong enough to knock the Hulk out cold. Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider to become the powerful Spider-Man. In this opponent or yielding, the Champion yielded. That being said, he does bleed and can get injured, but Thing doesnt have the Hulks recovery factor he needs to heal properly over time and can indeed die. Captain America possessed enhanced strength beyond what almost any human could muster. But that doesn't mean that his fans can't celebrate the occasion, and one of the most emotionally satisfying answers to this age-old rivalry that their bouts may ever produce. In Indestructible Hulk #1, the Mad Thinker known for his extraordinary mathematical calculations, deemed the upper level of the Hulks strength incalculable. for great jumps. handsome love rival, and believes he cannot compete. hurting anyone, and inner conflict over marrying Alicia. In this Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom trailer breakdown, Logan Plant highlights Link's four new powers, along with bringing some speculation surrounding some hidden bits tucked away in the gameplay. The only thing weve seen thats capable of piercing Things rock-like skin is Wolverines adamantium. A This is the maximum stress that a material can withstand. on the Skrull With Mjolnir, Thor can reach Mach32 speeds which is 87,738,945 miles per hour. In FF1 and again in Captain Marvel has a connection to a cosmic force that allows her to tap into the nearly infinite power of a white hole. Marvel: The 20 Fastest Speedsters, Ranked, The 15 Strongest Swordfighters In Marvel Comics, Ranked, strongest characters America Chavez beat in the comics, Top 15 British Superheroes in the Marvel Universe, Marvel: 10 Heroes You Wouldnt Think Are Stronger Than Thor (But Actually Are), Namor has beaten some of Marvel's toughest characters, Can lift approximately 1 ton consistently, Captain America can further increase his strength by training, His other strengths include his ability to inspire others and his leadership skills, The heart-shaped herb also enhanced his senses, His armor elevates him to Class 5 strength, Wolverine is the best there is at what he does, His claws are made from one of the planet's strongest metals, His genius intellect led to his further mutations, His strength makes his claws even more deadly, Can lift cars and other vehicles with minimal effort, The upper limits of her strength have yet to be tested, His strength was enhanced even further by the Venom symbiote, He habitually pulls his punches when fighting to protect his foes, His strength initially earned him the name Power Man, Training with Iron Fist taught him how to use his strength, Arthur Douglas' original resurrection as Drax was his most powerful form, Drax has also mastered the alien martial arts known as Dwi Theet, His body has been rebuilt with advanced technology that enhanced his strength, He was temporarily merged with Wonder Man, which further increased his strength, She can channel energy into her legs and feet for a power stomp, Ms. America can throw tanks to the Moon according to Loki, Groot was originally a monster who fought the Hulk, He has healing abilities and a genius-level intellect, Braddock can also enhance his senses using the same energy that increases his strength, His strength is partially based on his confidence so he can increase it when needed, His original form was of the Great Beast known as Tanaraq, He dropped in strength when he possessed Doc Samson, The Celestial-fighting Godbuster armor is physically his strongest, Tony Stark's natural strength was also enhanced by Extremis, He is a super-genius who became Marvel's Scientist Supreme, His strength was further increased after merging with Ultron, His organic steel is composed of the super-dense metal osmium, He nearly won an arm wrestle against the Fantastic Four's Thing, Colossus' strength increased exponentially as the new Juggernaut, She can lift heavy beings like Celestials, Her photon blasts are also incredibly powerful, Namor is physically stronger than any other Atlantean, He's stood up to powerful characters like Hulk and the Thing, She has absorbed the strength of heroes like Colossus, She-Hulk and Wonder Man, Rogue can absorb multiple powers at once to increase her strength further, He used the Nova Force to match Silver Surfer's cosmic strength, He can also manipulate gravimetric energy into powerful blasts. For most of That do-or-die instant where Ben Grimm will either find the will to win or be annihilated by the fighting-mad Immortal Hulk. was "just too stupid and ugly to give up," the Champion replied he Let's step inside Ben's mind. In a comic panel sure to be burned into the memory of every fan who reads it, Ben uncoils his stone fist like his life depends on it and drops Hulk like a sack of bricks. Advertisement Coins. Marvel has no shortage of powerful characters, but when it comes down to the strongest superheroes, their reputations precede them. any more. Mind-controlled or not, Hulk unleashes his full power against Ben in one punch after another. speed during the flight. could, so old Greenskin must have learned how to moderate his Reed, but is resigned to his fate. knew all about the Hulk, they knew all about Thor, and they sent her to I assume at some point Hulk could theoretically get so angry as to out scale The Thing, but is he as strong as a relatively angry Hulk? When it comes to running, Thor has been described as being able to run at speeds that surpass the speed of lightning . It might not be much, but it came in handy for the Black Panther on several occasions. the Whorf character - the one that newcomers defeat to show how You can follow him on Twitter at @ian_c1701 (yes, that is a Star Trek reference) for discussions, debates or pictures of really cool collectibles he probably doesn't have room for. This is that Thundra is the strongest fighter on her can land on normal ground without making a gigantic hole. Ben loves Sue. At the same time Marvel Girl Then again, his claws pierced through the Hulks impenetrable skin a few times, too. So the Thing has plenty of strength only "slightly" weaker than The Hulk. Years later Reed often refers to Ben as "old The Hulk always survives. So Why does Ben think he's weaker than the Hulk? The Hulk, despite its diminutive size, is clearly the strongest of the two. in FF25). their strength in response to stress. of fear of hurting others. cares what Reed thinks. Likewise, the Stranger a cosmic entity with power levels comparable to the Celestials, Galactus, and the Watchers also said the Hulks strength is undoubtedly limitless in Tales to Astonish #89. 9 years ago. Hes also a phenomenal pilot, expert martial artist, and, for what its worth, a fabulous saxophone player. Finally, Id like to point out that Thing doesnt age unless hes in human form, which makes him naturally immortal. can see, there are many variables, and a wide range of So even if Ben punches Hulk hard enough to kill him, he will simply come back to life in a matter of moon cycles. Banner (like Professor Hulk, Doc Green, or the Merged Hulk). So why does Ben not jump? Marvel Universe and the end of In the Fantastic Four #25, the Thing says, he beat me, after an epic fight between the two leads to the Thing being knocked down. As you In that battle, Red Hulk was able to get the upper hand on the God of Thunder and brought the fight all the way to the moon, where he was able to knock Thor unconscious. The appeal of the match-up has led to several fights over the years, usually with some crucial detail or mitigating circumstance allowing the debate to live on. Wolverine's strength limit may be less defined, but he's proven capable of handling close to two tons. But he hasn't solved the underlying confidence issue and He gained incredible speed, superhuman durability, flight, and super strength. Then it As we saw with his ability to change, Ben's abilities are Tony Stark is normally just an ordinary human being in good physical condition. That is the main difference between the not know where you will land: it's like firing a bullet randomly Prince Namor, and as late as FF33 Reed still wonders who she times when The Thing shows the greatest strength are when either the Fantastic Four are now united by Marvel, The Avengers Kill The Immortal Hulk in The Grossest Way Possible, Marvel Already Showed How Fantastic Four Can Join The MCU, 2024 Justice League Calendar Brings Back Iconic Art Fans Demanded, Shazam's Mary Bromfield Officially Chooses Her Superhero Codename, Miles Morales' New Costume Is His Most Iconic Alternate Look. Fantastic In The MCU? limit. Clearly it has some special kind of force (magnetic? And, the victories that th Thing had over the Hulk usually came as a part of a team effort, not a solo act. Insecurity is always there. When the psychiatrist was removed . Ben smashes the machine. Ben and Reed have known each other since college days (FF11, He no longer respects Reed or even angrier as he fights, whereas The Thing maintains self control out appears to be vibrating.). He's been in love with comics for a very long time, and believes there is some good to be found even in the industry's more difficult times. Feats of ludicrous Also note that one frame describes them fighting for "several When the 1970s Incredible Hulk TV series was resurrected as a TV movie in 1988, The Incredible Hulk Returns brought Thor along for the ride. Is the top talent The Hulk, the unstoppable force? Moreover, Thorknows that even he can't beat the Hulk, furtherindicating that the Thingisn'tstronger. Hulk and Thor in action and what did they conclude? while he was sick. including regressing to the state where he first met Alicia, until FF170: he thinks he;s solved his problems and plans to marry let himself take that chance. Ben was already suffering from a serious head injury, Based on the canonical examples given by Marvel Comics, the more often the two would fight, the more often the Thing would lose, no matter how strong Ben Grimm becomes. Ben may not be able to savor the victory, since he reverts to human form and passes out from his injuries within seconds (leaving Alicia to lead herself and the other bystanders out to safety). with the winner of Hulk vs. Thing claiming a knockout with a single, desperate punch. Forever after (until act His skin is made of organic stone material, and he gains incredible superhuman strength. FF90-93: a reminder of his natural self, physically much only win when Ben is weakened. has even fought a number of assorted Earth superheroes, including courage, leading the Champion to say the Thing was the opponent he Updated on Aug 28, 2022 by Scoot Allan: The most powerful heroes in the Marvel universe are gathering together in the multiversalAvengers Forever series. Namor is a mutant Atlantean which allows him to survive the crushing pressures of the ocean. When the Hulk crash lands on the newlyweds' beach with less than an hour to go before Ben Grimm becomes a squeezable, squishable human the fight becomes a matter of life and death. Lukas expertise lies in all branches o 15 Most Powerful Fantastic Four Villains (Ranked). Also note his unconscious unwillingness to hit a lady. What follows is a short period of silent soul searching, draw on extra strength, but that's not the whole story. all moral restraint (and hence self doubt), or when he is For those keeping score, the Hulk doeswin the early rounds of the duo's showdown. male of all. impossible to damage. In these areas the Thing is well above Hulk level. However, although the Thing is incredibly strong, he doesnt have the dynamic level of strength like the Hulk meaning, it has its limitations. Soon after (in FF18, 1963) the But when Alicia and the other innocent bystanders are buried alive, Ben is forced to start fighting for real. His rock-solid skin pun intended makes Thing incredibly resistant to physical injury, pain, and any kind of impact. He has trouble controlling it? Wrong. includes intelligence, skill, and spirit. incredible force, and perhaps the rocks get in the way? The Hulk is famous for claiming to be "the strongest one there is." a smaller man may be a bit faster than a larger man but the difference is minute, the larger man's extended reach more than makes up for it. But his belief their lives when they have a weekly arm wrestle. bigger. Next:Hulk Would Be Totally Powerless Against Star Trek's Enterprise. So the Thing, in effect, is (when adjusted for size), but Ben's default psychological state is One by one, everyone got either disqualified or knocked out, so the Thing remained the last one standing. Their comic battles almost always end up with the Hulk winning comfortably or the fight ending before we can get a winner. strongest one there is. pushed the knife in deep and twisted it over the years. he mentioned more than just cosmic rays, but in hindsight that He's gone through multiple secondary mutations throughout his life and grows stronger from each transformation. Since 1991 The Thing has been Lead Comics Editor for Screen Rant, Andrew Dyce has traveled from the distant wilds of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada to the forefront of the entertainment industry. The insecurity is still When the Thing runs towards Thor to deliver a powerful blow, Thor throws Mjlnir through the Things chest, dealing a fatal injury. his hammer: The Champion was looking for unaided strength. His strength makes him a valuable member of the Guardians of the Galaxy's best rosters. Thor was disqualified because he needed Loki isn't as strong as his brother and is only able to lift around 50 tons, which means Chavez might not be at Thor's level yet. The bottom line: the Thing is consciously able to lift less than At this time he fought the Hulk, and they were evenly matched. result he believes his strength is limited. to return. The green beast, named the Hulk, is a relatable individual, representing the characteristics idealized by the American society. regular steel case. This was around the same time as Fantastic Four staged the great games? "soil his hands on a mindless animal." Ben thinks psychological issues. several feet. or twice if you include Giant Size FF 1). for great jumps. can. He abandoned his natural tribe Yancy Street Gang and tried to Thor is at his fastest when using Mjolnir. Still, Hulks strength is almost always enough for him to overcome some technical shortages. Colossus' incredible strength class is 100+, which means he can consistently lift above 100 tons. reason Ben cannot change is psychological (this is finally stated Apart from incredible strength and durability, the major thing that makes Thing such an amazing superhero and one of the most beloved characters in Marvel Comics is his indomitable will and heart. If earth based presses can achieve 500 tons, and the Skrull installed: he must have concluded, based on his experience, that Art by Esad Ribic. figures collector, and he's rapidly running out of shelf space. probably his only real friend. so a massive blow to the head was enough to almost knock him out. reveals the thinking of the writer, the legendary Peter David: the 85 tons. be the Thing's equivalence to the Hulk's rage. any claim to continuity, for reasons discussed on this site's home RELATED: The Avengers Kill The Immortal Hulk in The Grossest Way Possible. Could he fight and win against Juggernaut? would have said "whoops, wrong location" and kept looking for the green The Big Green has telepathic resistance, extrasensory perception, superhuman reflexes, stamina, disease immunity, and incredible superhuman speed for his size. 64). was a red herring. Check this: WARNING: The following article contains spoilers for Fantastic Four #13 by Dan Slott, Sean Izaakse, Marcio Menyz and Joe Caramagna, in stores now. gone wrong. Knowing Alicia is buried in rubble, and seeing his seconds as The Thing dwindle down to single digits, Ben Grimm is painfully aware that he has just one punch left. names he says he would use the name Sue gave him. His favorite Avenger is Captain America, and that was long before the character starred in a very successful film franchise. Stan Lee, in "Marvel Comics: The Untold Story" by Sean Howe, p. himself up from a childhood in the gutter, he has everything: annual 2). PayPal https://www.paypal.me . Check out the official details and plot synopsis for the issue below: Fantastic Four #13 is available now at your local comic book shop, or online from Marvel Comics. AN unfortunate side effect is that, without his 6 #13). of the origin says "we haven't done enough research" and Reed Carol Danvers has quite a few powerful abilities as Captain Marvel, including her Class 100+ super strength. Fantastic Four had different powers). (It appears from the pictures that the Skrull Due to the muscular composition of his body, Thing can physically exert himself for over 24 hours before the first sign of fatigue kicks in. moment. But Banner isn't steering the Hulk through this fight, and the Puppet Master is hellbent on murder. He joined the first powerful roster of Canada's Alpha Flight and remained with the team when they were revamped as a galactic defense force. Per the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (Vol. Fans can argue The Phoenix would beat The Hulk, but they rank differently when looking at pure muscle. It would also make the object strongest male. Earth based pile drivers busy by fighting powerful warriors throughout the universe, and Benjamin Jacob Grimm, also known as The Thing, is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. His healing factor and dynamic strength level are too much for the Thing to handle, as shown in almost every fight they ever had in the comics. He realizes he has lost Sue, then in FF8 he falls for a girl and he unconsciously holds back for fear of hurting them, as seen He is always paired off against The Hulk, starting way back in the 60s, and he certainly holds his own or draws. In FF11 there is competition between them, but history (at least in a parallel world). Even when the odds are against him, when hes bruised and hurt, Benjy never gives up. probably did not apply. Reed, who always puts his experiments before Sue. character ever managed it either. In Fear Itself #5, the Thing and the Hulk (who is also wielding an enchanted hammer of the Serpent), team-up in an intense battle against Thor. His alter ego, Hulk is no ordinary human, especially compared to Bruce. Apparently he also holds back when exercising, unconsciously He tried everything shooting himself in the mouth, drinking a fistful of pills, slitting his wrists but nothing worked. returns to the parallel world he fixed in issue 50, and finds it has all press could achieve much more than this, then it appears that The Hes highly resilient to explosives, too a bazooka shot from point-blank range didnt harm him at all, although Im not sure how Thing would fare against nuclear weaponry. It's all about self control. It is often assumed that Ben is weaker than the Hulk because the does. Hercules / Zeus. The Puppet Master isn't holding back and makes sure that the Hulk is fighting as his most brutal, most dangerous self. Some of these fights ended in stalemates, while others ended thanks to outside help before a victor could be crowned. jumped in deserts), but the Thing does: unconsciously he will not had sought through the ages, the one who would require all of his That question has now been answered in the most decisive fashion possible. He's proven he can push himself to lift well over his regular class when needed. Even though Groot can consistently lift 100 tons, his strength is essentially limitless. The only time(s) when Thing won against the Hulk is when he had help from the Fantastic Four, or the Hulk was weakened, while the Thing was powered up. And she really tried! It was He had to struggle. Based on this logic, the Hulk cant even be described as being stronger than the Thing so much as they are not even in the same league, settling the argument once and for all that, no, the Thing can never truly, fairly beat the Hulk. and great body, he's the kind of guy women swoon over. Note that this is 1974, at the same time as the weak Thing acceptance. This sometimes makes it difficult for fans wondering "who is the strongest Marvel superhero?". himself the greatest warrior in the universe. If the Hulk reached anywhere near his upper limits, his mere existence would jeopardize the planet, possibly the galaxy. days Ben was trying to impress Sue. Spider-Man has lifted upwards of 25 tons in the comics. In both cases, The shut case, right? Stubbornness seems to He says he wants be a young jock forever. of Ben's psychological frustration. Any planet which could Overall, the Hulk showed much more strength and won many more fights than the Think, and even the fights Ben won were hardly ever a one-on-one clash. Ben was supposed to pilot Reed's rocket ship. And this time, the Thing wins, fair and square. face the truth. FF25-26: He comes to believes he is weak, and fully accepts appears that the more stubborn he gets, the stronger he gets. self confidence: In summary, Sue began the problem. stronger when away from Reed. FF270: Ben is away to work through his psychological problems. Marvel has also produced a Strength and Fitness book. without determination or intelligence may be a weakness. The alien Symtiotes of Marvel like Venom or Carnage has long plagued the comic books thanks to how easily they can assimilate large swathes of populations, including superheroes. FF175: in Marvel Two in One 50 he goes back to the start and changes This reinforces his mistaken view that he is ugly. This issue also implies that when Ben is around the Hulk he's When he increases his size, his strength proportionally increases. he ever had, as an alpha male. of a jump requires joints to rotate at incredible speed, not just came to accept himself in act 5. Thor's fastest recorded speed at this point is three times the speed of light while flying with Mjolnir. Banner is an expert in nuclear physics, as well as engineering, medicine, quantum mechanics, etc. Strength is how you apply that power: it prevents him from changing at will, either to human or to being Since the radioactive exposure that granted the Fantastic Four their powers, Benjamin Grimm gained the ability to turn into the Thing. FF236: Ben abandons his policy of accepting his lot. RELATED: Marvel: 10 Heroes You Wouldnt Think Are Stronger Than Thor (But Actually Are). mean to, but he lacks emotional empathy so cannot see what he is It may seem like a bit of a cheat that for one week per year, Ben's body reverts to his human, flesh and blood form. Knowing that he's fighting a villain basically using Hulk as a murder weapon, Ben takes his gloves off (figuratively). But he Thing's default psychological state is After the yield point, the stress continues to rise until it reaches its maximum, the ultimate tensile strength. Alicia's stepfather, the long-time FF villain known as Puppet Master, brainwashes Hulk into attacking his son-in-law. Piotr Rasputin already possessed the physique of a champion bodybuilder. Strange Tales, he is tied to a ten ton object. While this was an impressive feat, the Hulk was significantly weakened before the fight even began as he was being mind controlled by the supervillain Puppet Master, making the Things greatest victory over the Hulk a disappointingly shallow one and can't really be considered atrue "win" for the Thing. But that's when Alicia reminds the blue-eyed Thing what all of us know: he's got more heart than anyone -- and a lot more than a Puppet Master-controlled Hulk. but this is a barbed compliment: it assumes that he is doomed to So the usual psychological blocks Related:Thanos Was Afraid to Face the Hulk Before He Had the Infinity Stones. His metal form wasn't a shield that covered his skin. strength level, so this was a real shock. This is. At some level the person gives unconscious Note: The Hulk was disqualified because the Champion refused to When the Thing runs towards Thor to deliver a powerful blow, Thor throws Mjlnir through the Thing's chest, dealing a fatal injury. He studied and got a degree in Media Culture at the Academy of Arts and Culture in Osijek, Croatia, specializing in creative writing, journalism, and filmmaking. Ben will never obtain peace until he had nothing to do with his muscles, it was simply his head injury. discussion of Ben's loneliness, and struggle for self Thing subconsciously restrains himself, and believes himself typical main bridge cable supports ten thousand tons. vehicle that says "Reed is the greatest"? finally he has to get away to work things out in his head. permission. But most of Ben's feats of strength are near to other people, Jones' durability is also worth noting, as she can push beyond her strength and recover from the resulting injuries with ease. He excelled at sports and at school, and in the gang-like With his mutant animal muscle, The Beast could lift upwards of 10 tons and he pushed past this limit when needed. When the Thing said he One doesn't get a nickname like "The Destroyer" without being known around the galaxy for destruction. Strength is more than But when those restraints are removed his strength seems to bridge cables together for an extended period. Most people would assume that larger muscles produce the most force. You can follow Spencer on Twitter: @TheSpencerVerse. His intellect is classified as super-genius. thinking about using his strength in battles. Namor can consistently lift around 75 tons, but that can further increase when he is in his natural element. Hulk, and no fear of accidentally hurting others from The Thing. Directed by James Mangold, the movie also stars Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Antonio Banderas, John Rhys-Davies, Shaunette Renee Wilson, Thomas Kretschmann, Toby Jones, Boyd Holbrook, Oliver Richters, Ethann Isidore, and Mads Mikkelsen. The gravitational?) Similarly, in Immortal Hulk #7 by Al Ewing and Joe Bennett, the Hulk goes up against the entire Avengers team and knocks Thor out of the fight with a single punch to the face. His strength continued to increase, as did his connection to the mystical Otherworld that empowered him. the psychological restraints are reduced (e.g. Over the years, the pair have clashed many times, to the point that their brawls have become classic bits of nostalgia, stretching all the way back to the pair's first meeting in Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's Fantastic Four #12 and their spectacular fight in Lee and Kirby's Fantastic Four #25 and 26. like change to Ben Grimm at will or beat the Hulk. back as the others can. Of all the opponents the Champion ever have just knocked it over sideways, or lifted it without crumpling FF68-69: he again fights back at Reed. Then Sue called him a Ben then notices that the Bridge changes to Now, thats what being a hero truly means never giving up on doing the right thing. The fight, which began in last month's Fantastic Four #12, saw the Immortal Hulk interrupt Ben Grimm and Alicia Masters' honeymoon for a rematch. So the They both increase She can temporarily absorb the powers of those stronger than her and combine them together. That dynamic factor is virtually unlimited, meaning the Hulks strength has no upper boundary. However, Hulk usually gets the best of Thing so much so that the big heart of stone taps out of some of their fights. FF39-43: Humiliation: The first long term change back to plain This week's issue of Fantastic Four finally answered the question in as definitive a conclusion as fans could hope for in comic books. truconnect account number and pin,
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